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	<title>Comments on: Challenge your assumptions and presuppositions to identify useful variation</title>
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		<title>By: Question: Which applications do you use during interviews to &#8217;see&#8217; how candidates do exploratory testing?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Question: Which applications do you use during interviews to &#8217;see&#8217; how candidates do exploratory testing?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mainly used this in team based exercises, and primarily to explore presupposition analysis as a method for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A response and a name for it! (CKA)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.testingreflections.com/node/view/6888&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.testingreflections.com/node/view/6888&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks Erik, I like the notion of multiple labels so I fully support whatever helps people remember the approaches.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A response and a name for it! (CKA)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.testingreflections.com/node/view/6888" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.testingreflections.com/node/view/6888</a></p>
<p><em>Thanks Erik, I like the notion of multiple labels so I fully support whatever helps people remember the approaches.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Antony Marcano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antony Marcano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A useful framework for this thought process is the scientific method - I&#039;ve discussed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.testingreflections.com/node/view/6314&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the scientific method in the context of exploratory testing&lt;/a&gt; before.

On the subject of heuristics... Readers should note that there are other sources of heuristics... they aren&#039;t always labelled heuristics. For example, the &#039;attacks&#039; in the &quot;How to Break Software&quot; book series can be applied as heuristics.

&lt;em&gt;I have slowly come to believe that &#039;heuristic&#039; acts as one of those &#039;global&#039; words that encompasses every other word and we can&#039;t get away from it :) 

When I read &quot;How to break ...&quot; books, I found applying the &#039;challenge assumptions and presuppositions&#039; approach a really useful exercise. By challenging the &#039;assumptions&#039; or presuppositions listed in the attacks you can start to generalise the attacks listed and apply them in other contexts.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A useful framework for this thought process is the scientific method &#8211; I&#8217;ve discussed <a href="http://www.testingreflections.com/node/view/6314" rel="nofollow">the scientific method in the context of exploratory testing</a> before.</p>
<p>On the subject of heuristics&#8230; Readers should note that there are other sources of heuristics&#8230; they aren&#8217;t always labelled heuristics. For example, the &#8216;attacks&#8217; in the &#8220;How to Break Software&#8221; book series can be applied as heuristics.</p>
<p><em>I have slowly come to believe that &#8216;heuristic&#8217; acts as one of those &#8216;global&#8217; words that encompasses every other word and we can&#8217;t get away from it :) </p>
<p>When I read &#8220;How to break &#8230;&#8221; books, I found applying the &#8216;challenge assumptions and presuppositions&#8217; approach a really useful exercise. By challenging the &#8216;assumptions&#8217; or presuppositions listed in the attacks you can start to generalise the attacks listed and apply them in other contexts.</em></p>
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		<title>By: James Bach</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was all set to write a comment about how you ARE describing a heuristic process, and then I got to the end. Oh you EVIL tester! Tricking us! :-)

&lt;em&gt;Ah, that sweet sucker punch of presupposition. 
:)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was all set to write a comment about how you ARE describing a heuristic process, and then I got to the end. Oh you EVIL tester! Tricking us! :-)</p>
<p><em>Ah, that sweet sucker punch of presupposition.<br />
:)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bolton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Algorithms are heuristics too.

A heuristic is &quot;a fallible method for solving a problem or making a decision&quot;.  Algorithms are methods of solving problems or making decisions.  Do we know of algorithms that will never fail?

---Michael B.

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the comment Michael. I wrote &quot;Since it can’t count as a an algorithmic approach&quot; in the post because I read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/heuristic&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dictionary.com&lt;/a&gt; definition of &#039;heuristic&#039; when I wrote the post. Dictionary.com uses the text &quot;pertaining to a trial-and-error method of problem solving used when an algorithmic approach is impractical&quot;. I would certainly not treat what I wrote as algorithmic, therefore I count it as heuristic. I don&#039;t know enough mathematics to know if there exist algorithms that people consider infallible.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Algorithms are heuristics too.</p>
<p>A heuristic is &#8220;a fallible method for solving a problem or making a decision&#8221;.  Algorithms are methods of solving problems or making decisions.  Do we know of algorithms that will never fail?</p>
<p>&#8212;Michael B.</p>
<p><em>Thanks for the comment Michael. I wrote &#8220;Since it can’t count as a an algorithmic approach&#8221; in the post because I read the <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/heuristic" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">dictionary.com</a> definition of &#8216;heuristic&#8217; when I wrote the post. Dictionary.com uses the text &#8220;pertaining to a trial-and-error method of problem solving used when an algorithmic approach is impractical&#8221;. I would certainly not treat what I wrote as algorithmic, therefore I count it as heuristic. I don&#8217;t know enough mathematics to know if there exist algorithms that people consider infallible.</em></p>
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