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		<title>By: Alan Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.eviltester.com/index.php/2009/01/24/how-i-learned-to-love-seleniums-fireevent/#comment-3566</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome. Thank you for taking the time to ask. 

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome. Thank you for taking the time to ask. </p>
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		<title>By: RK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot, Alan. This was very helpful information for me to get started on the right track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot, Alan. This was very helpful information for me to get started on the right track.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.eviltester.com/index.php/2009/01/24/how-i-learned-to-love-seleniums-fireevent/#comment-3557</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IDE can export source code, which you can load into an IDE.

If you do this you can learn to code and make your tests more robust.

If you are using HTML suites as your automation strategy then, even without understanding your context, I&#039;d say you need to rethink your approach.

I show how to move quickly from the Selenium IDE into a programing IDE in this video http://www.youtube.com/user/EviltesterVideos#p/u/2/H0_KBr939mM

By doing this you can step through the selenium test in a proper programming language, in a proper development environment.

Automation involves programming, if you want to have a robust automation suite, I think you need to program it.

This was why I wrote the book &quot;Selenium Simplified&quot; the free preview should get you started with the Eclipse IDE and move you towards programming, if it proves useful then you might want to invest in the full book. http://www.compendiumdev.co.uk/selenium

A lot of other tutorials exist on the web. I think HTML test suites can be useful, but in very restricted circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IDE can export source code, which you can load into an IDE.</p>
<p>If you do this you can learn to code and make your tests more robust.</p>
<p>If you are using HTML suites as your automation strategy then, even without understanding your context, I&#8217;d say you need to rethink your approach.</p>
<p>I show how to move quickly from the Selenium IDE into a programing IDE in this video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/EviltesterVideos#p/u/2/H0_KBr939mM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/EviltesterVideos#p/u/2/H0_KBr939mM</a></p>
<p>By doing this you can step through the selenium test in a proper programming language, in a proper development environment.</p>
<p>Automation involves programming, if you want to have a robust automation suite, I think you need to program it.</p>
<p>This was why I wrote the book &#8220;Selenium Simplified&#8221; the free preview should get you started with the Eclipse IDE and move you towards programming, if it proves useful then you might want to invest in the full book. <a href="http://www.compendiumdev.co.uk/selenium" rel="nofollow">http://www.compendiumdev.co.uk/selenium</a></p>
<p>A lot of other tutorials exist on the web. I think HTML test suites can be useful, but in very restricted circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: RK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response Alan. The test case was working fine in IDE. I need to run my tests against IE8 therefore I had to run them using selenium server. It did run successfully when I changed the &quot;onMouseOver&quot; to &quot;click&quot; (in the fireEvent command). So instead of 2 steps where one is getting the mouse to move over the button and the other step is clicking it, I just fireEvent the &quot;click&quot;. Unfortunately just having the command for &quot;click&quot; does not make the click happen. 

I&#039;m wondering what you mean by the second tip in your response. &quot;Try generating code and run it through an IDE – I really don’t recommend the HTML Test Suite method of execution. &quot;.How can I generate code in IDE ? Isin&#039;t that the same as recording and tweaking where necessary. I am not familiar with any of the other languages that Selenium Server supports so I have to use HTML test suites only, for the Selenium Server execution. If selenium server is not very good/ stable about  HTML test suites maybe my organisation needs to rethink their QA automation strategy (or I need to learn some other languages).I must say I have been facing more problems than success  
at every step.

Thanks in advance for your response.
RK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response Alan. The test case was working fine in IDE. I need to run my tests against IE8 therefore I had to run them using selenium server. It did run successfully when I changed the &#8220;onMouseOver&#8221; to &#8220;click&#8221; (in the fireEvent command). So instead of 2 steps where one is getting the mouse to move over the button and the other step is clicking it, I just fireEvent the &#8220;click&#8221;. Unfortunately just having the command for &#8220;click&#8221; does not make the click happen. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering what you mean by the second tip in your response. &#8220;Try generating code and run it through an IDE – I really don’t recommend the HTML Test Suite method of execution. &#8220;.How can I generate code in IDE ? Isin&#8217;t that the same as recording and tweaking where necessary. I am not familiar with any of the other languages that Selenium Server supports so I have to use HTML test suites only, for the Selenium Server execution. If selenium server is not very good/ stable about  HTML test suites maybe my organisation needs to rethink their QA automation strategy (or I need to learn some other languages).I must say I have been facing more problems than success<br />
at every step.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for your response.<br />
RK</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty hard to diagnose from this. So some strategies... 
- upgrade Selenium to newer version, 

Try generating code and run it through an IDE - I really don&#039;t recommend the HTML Test Suite method of execution.

- does it work stepping through in debug mode? If so it might be a timing issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty hard to diagnose from this. So some strategies&#8230;<br />
- upgrade Selenium to newer version, </p>
<p>Try generating code and run it through an IDE &#8211; I really don&#8217;t recommend the HTML Test Suite method of execution.</p>
<p>- does it work stepping through in debug mode? If so it might be a timing issue</p>
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		<title>By: RK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fireEvent works wonderfully, but what do I do when Selenium RC does not recognise it. I get the following error when RC encounters FireEvent (I was trying to click save and had fireEvent(id-of-save-button,onMouseOver ) followed by click(id-of-save-button)). I am trying to run a HTML test suite against IE8. It was recorded and tweaked in FF 3.6, using Selenium IDE 1.0.10. Selenium Server version is : Selenium server 2.8.0
Error Text :
Command execution failure. Please search the user group at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/selenium-users for error details from the log window.  The error message is: Invalid argument.

Any tips will be very helpful and appreciated.

Thanks
RK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fireEvent works wonderfully, but what do I do when Selenium RC does not recognise it. I get the following error when RC encounters FireEvent (I was trying to click save and had fireEvent(id-of-save-button,onMouseOver ) followed by click(id-of-save-button)). I am trying to run a HTML test suite against IE8. It was recorded and tweaked in FF 3.6, using Selenium IDE 1.0.10. Selenium Server version is : Selenium server 2.8.0<br />
Error Text :<br />
Command execution failure. Please search the user group at <a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/selenium-users" rel="nofollow">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/selenium-users</a> for error details from the log window.  The error message is: Invalid argument.</p>
<p>Any tips will be very helpful and appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
RK</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.eviltester.com/index.php/2009/01/24/how-i-learned-to-love-seleniums-fireevent/#comment-3537</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it seems as though they have. Thanks for pointing this out Tarun. I&#039;ve got my Voodoo dolls on standby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it seems as though they have. Thanks for pointing this out Tarun. I&#8217;ve got my Voodoo dolls on standby.</p>
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		<title>By: Tarun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has some one just copied your content here - 
http://seleniumready.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-to-use-selenium-fire-event.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has some one just copied your content here &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://seleniumready.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-to-use-selenium-fire-event.html" rel="nofollow">http://seleniumready.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-to-use-selenium-fire-event.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome. Thanks for letting me know the post helped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome. Thanks for letting me know the post helped.</p>
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		<title>By: Giancarlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giancarlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post. I was dealing with almost the exact same issue a text fields&#039;s value will be updated on blur of the previous text field. I tried using click and doubleClick to no avail. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post. I was dealing with almost the exact same issue a text fields&#8217;s value will be updated on blur of the previous text field. I tried using click and doubleClick to no avail. Thanks!</p>
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